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Being 'weak' gives no chance for a second date

A man in a weakened emotional state is a turn-off for Lantern blogger Ariel Kohane

kohane.2@osu.edu

Published: Thursday, October 15, 2009

Updated: Friday, October 16, 2009 14:10

On my first date with this guy, everything was going brilliantly. The chemistry was there; our conversation was seamless, and I was starting to visualize him in bed. Unfortunately, while I was off in la-la land, he steered the conversation into the past relationship zone.

"Blah blah blah two failed relationships blah blah I was dumped and didn't know why… Been hurt and don't want it to happen again."

Yes, he was being honest and if I were the ‘girl-in-the-movie' I would have found his not wanting to get hurt endearing. It would have made us closer that he had opened up to me about his feelings.

But my uncensored, real-girl reaction was like this: It was as if he was flashing a red warning sign saying, "I'm not over it! Don't hurt me because you'll mess me up even more."

When you say you don't want to get hurt you're divulging that you haven't fully recovered from your last fall. But no one can ever promise they won't hurt you, the future is unforeseeable.

Of course, in theory I sympathize with him.  Having feelings for someone and then being dumped is like getting the wind knocked out of you. But still, the worst thing you can do right off the bat is share your past relationship failures. Down the road, if all is going well, then it is important and healthy to air those past experiences because both parties are beginning to invest in the other. But if these anxieties are divulged too soon then it makes you sound weak, and weak doesn't get a second date.

Clichés carry truth: Honesty is a virtue. But to be frank, you can bitch to your friend, therapist, teddy bear etc., but if you want to get a second date, get over it before the first one.

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6 comments

Anonymous
Mon Apr 4 2011 22:37
*Scratches head. If he spent a long time droning on about it, that's a turn-off and rude on a date, agreed. I totally get you if that was the case. But if he spent a few minutes talking about his past experiences, and that he just came off a couple bad breakups, without gratuitous detail; then that's just being honest. I don't think that qualifies as "too much information" syndrome; it's two people sharing and talking.

The two of you just weren't emotionally compatible - there are people out there who would have appreciated his candour, and others who would not. You were visualizing him in bed, he was sharing his emotions. I don't draw any universal "don't tell your date" about where you are in your life, emotionally or romantically, principles here. I'm happy with a few subtle hints early on, and then details later if and when I ask.

Grace
Thu Oct 22 2009 16:59
Michael, you probably need this advice so I would not insult "overly opinionated girls" like Ariel.
Roberta
Wed Oct 21 2009 14:45
It's really not that deep Steve. You don't talk about failed relationships with somebody you just met. The rules go both ways. It does show weakness when you talk negatively about your past. When you first meet someone, you should be talking about light issues.
Michael
Sat Oct 17 2009 15:50
Yeah, you've got to be a REAL MAN to get a second date. You should talk about all the chicks you've banged and all the wild animals you've killed with your bare hands.

Ariel, here's another cliche that carries truth: overly opinionated girls such as yourself are annoying as hell. But to be frank, I would still bang you, especially if you kept your mouth shut.

Jerry
Sat Oct 17 2009 14:57
This is the truth... the only way to successfully prowl for girls is to focus your conversation on them. If you want to talk about your girl problems, take a buddy to a sports bar and drink lots of beer while talking about your failed relationships. Perhaps you will even learn something. But... if you want to get laid, when you're with a girl, talk about the girl. Hey... I don't make the rules.
Steve F.
Fri Oct 16 2009 16:22
You're so deep.... I don't know what's worse, that guy wasting your time or you wasting space in the Lantern.






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